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Title: Motorcycle Racing Venues
Post by: fknflyn@73 on May 16, 2011, 10:21:05 PM
Ok, new poll  !   Somebody set this up for me, eh ?  I'm 'puter illiterate !

Best USA motorcycle racing venue based on personal experience and/or what you've seen on tv :

Auto Club Speedway
Barber Motorsports Park
Indianapolis Raceway Park
Infineon Raceway
Laguna Seca
Las Vegas Motor Speedway
Mid America
Mid Ohio
Miller Motorsports Park
Road America
Road Atlanta
Spring Mountain Motorsports Ranch
Willow Springs

Anyone have additional venues, ask to have them added to the poll...  that is, if one of you mods will assist in setting this up !!! 

Randy, Olive, Troy, Skuuter ?  (who'd I miss?)

 :notworthy:












Title: Re: Motorcycle Racing Venues
Post by: Olive on May 16, 2011, 10:25:58 PM
Ok Wheatie, your poll is up. Let me know if I missed out on anything.  People can pick up to three venues.


Title: Re: Motorcycle Racing Venues
Post by: NOMOKRASH (aka CTD aka Charlie) on May 17, 2011, 04:02:47 AM
Ok, this is a tough one for me.  I have been to several of these for car races and have some opinions about the tracks.  I have ridden a few of them too and have some opinions about that too.  If you are there to watch then I have another set of opinions.  Examples, Barber is an awesome facility and great fun to ride, but if you want to take any pictures, forget it.  Road America is a great facility in a beautiful setting, but you can only see small section of the 4 1/2 mile track from any one place.  

I guess I am curious what you are trying to find out with this poll.  Road Atlanta is still one of my favorite tracks, but the facilities aren't nearly as nice as Barber.  Mid-Ohio is another great track and has lots of great places to watch the race.  Auto Club Speedway and Indianapolis Motor Speedway both suck for watching a race on the road courses.  Indianapolis Raceway Park (now O'Reilly Raceway Park) is a 2/3 mile oval that is a great place to watch sprint cars.  Between races you can watch the ameteurs on the drag strip.


Title: Re: Motorcycle Racing Venues
Post by: skuuter on May 17, 2011, 06:54:06 AM
I went with Road Atlanta, and Mid-Ohio....in years past I always enjoyed watchin' the Races at these...Bikes and Cars..... :headbang:


Title: Re: Motorcycle Racing Venues
Post by: fknflyn@73 on May 17, 2011, 08:08:54 AM
Good points all, Steve !   Obviously, I didn't put enough thought into my explanation.  If I've added "on tv", that should have been supplemented with "in person" .. in the "viewing" sense.  That being said, it's going to, and has created confusion.....  It wouldn't be much of a poll if the only option was on-track experience unless this was a racer's forum.  Therefore, I'd suggest we stick with both hands-on and viewing experience and try to combine the two for an overall effect on one's senses.  

There are a number of venues on the list that I've never been to, but have seen on tv, whether or not it was bikes or cars.  I've ridden one of them (spectator lap only).  The other two I've seen on tv (or GoPro) and they left a lasting impression.  This is not to say the others are of any more or less quality, both visually in on-track.

Bottom line, combine your feelings, then vote !....  

Hope this helps clarify .....    :occasion14:

Olive, I left out probably the most historic and visually exciting venue of all.  Please add Isle Of Man ! ! ! !    And I've already voted !!!
 :BangHead: :BangHead: :BangHead:


Title: Re: Motorcycle Racing Venues
Post by: Dutchy on May 17, 2011, 03:21:54 PM
Isle of Man lies in the Irish Sea, not USA......   :headbang:


Title: Re: Motorcycle Racing Venues
Post by: Mr. Gramps on May 17, 2011, 04:21:37 PM
Isle of Man lies in the Irish Sea, not USA......   :headbang:
Just what I was thinking, does that mean Phillip Island is an option?
For US i'm going Miller, Laguna Seca and Barber but theres one coming on board in Housten in a year or 2, should be very good.
And what about Fernley in Reno?  :laughing7:


Title: Re: Motorcycle Racing Venues
Post by: NOMOKRASH (aka CTD aka Charlie) on May 17, 2011, 04:30:03 PM
I like a lot of different tracks for a lot of different reasons, but you still can't beat watching bikes (or cars) come through the esses at Road Atlanta from spectator hill.  It is just such an amazing stretch of track and you can see so much of it.  The corkscrew at Laguna Seca is epic, but it is over so quickly.  Barber is a riders track.  Mid-Ohio and Road America are just great all-round tracks.  I haven't been to Miller or VIR.  Miller looks awfully flat, but VIR looks very cool.

I was in San Francisco for the weekend to see my oldest son and didn't realize until Sturday that the AMA race was at Infineon.  Otherwise I would have had another track under my belt.


Title: Re: Motorcycle Racing Venues
Post by: skuuter on May 17, 2011, 04:59:33 PM
I like a lot of different tracks for a lot of different reasons, but you still can't beat watching bikes (or cars) come through the esses at Road Atlanta from spectator hill.  It is just such an amazing stretch of track and you can see so much of it.  The corkscrew at Laguna Seca is epic, but it is over so quickly.  Barber is a riders track.  Mid-Ohio and Road America are just great all-round tracks.  I haven't been to Miller or VIR.  Miller looks awfully flat, but VIR looks very cool.

I was in San Francisco for the weekend to see my oldest son and didn't realize until Sturday that the AMA race was at Infineon.  Otherwise I would have had another track under my belt.

Yep, Road Atlanta is a very "Spectator Friendly" Track for a Road Course......Spectator Viewing is the Main Reason for Oval Track Popularity in the USA... :headbang:


Title: Re: Motorcycle Racing Venues
Post by: NOMOKRASH (aka CTD aka Charlie) on May 17, 2011, 05:17:04 PM
That is a good point skuut!  To your point, road course get the short end because street courses are better for corporate sponsorship.  It is much easier to get clients to a box in the city than 50 miles out of town.


Title: Re: Motorcycle Racing Venues
Post by: fknflyn@73 on May 17, 2011, 07:31:26 PM
Isle of Man lies in the Irish Sea, not USA......   :headbang:

Quite right, Dutchmeister !   I've ignored me own rules, it seems  !   ....   BLAST !     :disgust:


Title: Re: Motorcycle Racing Venues
Post by: NOMOKRASH (aka CTD aka Charlie) on May 18, 2011, 03:22:24 AM
Maybe the US should invade the Irish Sea and claim the Isle of Man!  No wait, then the lawyers would ruin the race...


Title: Re: Motorcycle Racing Venues
Post by: fknflyn@73 on May 18, 2011, 08:10:52 AM
Don't care who "owns" that special piece of land.  NOTHING will ever top IOM.  Double BLAST !  Should have included certain other parts of the world as well.....   if that were the case, IOM would win this thing hands down in this house  ! !     :notworthy:


Title: Re: Motorcycle Racing Venues
Post by: NOMOKRASH (aka CTD aka Charlie) on May 18, 2011, 02:49:35 PM
IOM is on my bucket list!


Title: Re: Motorcycle Racing Venues
Post by: fknflyn@73 on May 18, 2011, 03:26:53 PM
IOM is on my bucket list!


Mine, too.  Just don't have a bucket large enough  ! !   :disgust:


Title: Re: Motorcycle Racing Venues
Post by: fknflyn@73 on May 18, 2011, 04:32:08 PM
Kaiser Jokay... need your input here, being track and race-oriented, lad ! ! !   Only 6 votes which is a reminder that this is not a track day-oriented forum.  But still, bikes is bikes no matter what you do with 'em ! .... and this is part of the mix, I've come to find out !  ....

 :occasion14:


Title: Re: Motorcycle Racing Venues
Post by: Cruz on May 18, 2011, 06:09:25 PM
I hit "other".....for my "race track"....Vaca  roflol roflol roflol roflol roflol


Title: Re: Motorcycle Racing Venues
Post by: NOMOKRASH (aka CTD aka Charlie) on May 18, 2011, 06:14:02 PM
That's not a racetrack!  I might have to change mine to the Blue Ridge Parkway!


Title: Re: Motorcycle Racing Venues
Post by: fknflyn@73 on May 18, 2011, 07:28:53 PM
I must submit that without the flag men and red/white corner markings, Hwy 2 runs a close second to your fav !  ....

 :icon_thumright:  :occasion14:


Title: Re: Motorcycle Racing Venues
Post by: Mr. Gramps on May 18, 2011, 07:32:39 PM
What about the road to the North Rim...without trees.


Title: Re: Motorcycle Racing Venues
Post by: Olive on May 18, 2011, 08:01:55 PM
What about the road to the North Rim...without trees.

Without the tree laying across the lane would be good too... but what about your favourite tar snakes?


Title: Re: Motorcycle Racing Venues
Post by: Mr. Gramps on May 18, 2011, 08:05:07 PM
What about the road to the North Rim...without trees.

Without the tree laying across the lane would be good too... but what about your favourite tar snakes?
Yeah the 50 mile stretch before the paystation. Actually I typed wrong, I do like trees, not a fan of the ones laying on the road


Title: Re: Motorcycle Racing Venues
Post by: NOMOKRASH (aka CTD aka Charlie) on May 19, 2011, 03:48:19 AM
What about the road to the North Rim...without trees.

That was an awesome ride until we got to the tar snakes!  Much like the Blue Ridge Parkway, except the BRP runs along the edge of the mountains.   The road to the North Rim felt a lot safer, not having to worry about riding off of a cliff most of the way.


Title: Re: Motorcycle Racing Venues
Post by: Cruz on May 19, 2011, 07:58:21 AM
What about the road to the North Rim...without trees.

That was an awesome ride until we got to the tar snakes!  Much like the Blue Ridge Parkway, except the BRP runs along the edge of the mountains.   The road to the North Rim felt a lot safer, not having to worry about riding off of a cliff most of the way.
You wouldnt like the 191 aka 666 in Az then  roflol roflol roflol haulin azz around a corner and all you see is sky..sometimes the tops of huge pine trees. No guardrails...which  I dont really know if its a good or bad thing. Either way yer screwed if ya mess up.


Title: Re: Motorcycle Racing Venues
Post by: fknflyn@73 on May 19, 2011, 08:01:17 AM
I actually learned a lot riding those tar snakers......   I learned to STAY TF AWAY !!!      :violent5: :violent5: :violent5:

 :laughing4:


Title: Re: Motorcycle Racing Venues
Post by: Olive on May 19, 2011, 08:08:48 AM
That was an awesome ride until we got to the tar snakes!  Much like the Blue Ridge Parkway, except the BRP runs along the edge of the mountains.   The road to the North Rim felt a lot safer, not having to worry about riding off of a cliff most of the way.
You wouldnt like the 191 aka 666 in Az then  roflol roflol roflol haulin azz around a corner and all you see is sky..sometimes the tops of huge pine trees. No guardrails...which  I dont really know if its a good or bad thing. Either way yer screwed if ya mess up.

Pacific Coast Highway... especially the section near the origin... guard rails?  Never heard of them.  Road edge=cliff edge.  Just amazing!


Title: Re: Motorcycle Racing Venues
Post by: Dutchy on May 21, 2011, 10:08:54 AM
IOM is on my bucket list!


Mine, too.  Just don't have a bucket large enough  ! !   :disgust:



Been there, done that  :headbang:




Title: Re: Motorcycle Racing Venues
Post by: fknflyn@73 on May 21, 2011, 10:32:52 AM
You're a very fortunate man, Dutch !   I only know of one person here who is planning on being at IOM, 2012.  He's on another forum.  If I had what it takes to get that done, it's be a no-brainer  !!   Feel free to post up vids & pics if you have 'em.  I (we'd) love to see them  ! ! !   :icon_thumright:   :notworthy:


Title: Re: Motorcycle Racing Venues
Post by: Dutchy on May 22, 2011, 12:21:04 PM
that was 1993 so that meant looking for a cardboard box of photographic prints and scan.............


Through work I met Bob from Maryland who owned a whole lot of Guzzis. He had invited me over in 1992 for a 3 week trip on one of his California's.
1993 was me returning the favour. I rented a XJ900 for him in London so we went on our way.  First to Scotland and then IOM

My ride was a LeMans 1000 at that time  :headbang:  and I looked much younger then.....

(http://i113.photobucket.com/albums/n206/Dutchy_748/108c5d4f.jpg)


The ferry from Liverpool to Douglas was kinda packed...

(http://i113.photobucket.com/albums/n206/Dutchy_748/Scannen0080.jpg)


The boys are back in town....


(http://i113.photobucket.com/albums/n206/Dutchy_748/Scannen0079-1.jpg)



aparently, antics at the promenade are no longer allowed these days

(http://i113.photobucket.com/albums/n206/Dutchy_748/Scannen0078.jpg)


(http://i113.photobucket.com/albums/n206/Dutchy_748/276e69d1.jpg)

(I do have a full frontal picture of the girl but that will earn me an award here for sure.   :laughing7:



Yer Maun,  a picture scanned up side down, but you can see fog doesnot interfere with free practise...


(http://i113.photobucket.com/albums/n206/Dutchy_748/050fbe6f.jpg)



The road plunges down , at the bottom is a pub and a 90 degree righthander, so there is a wall of sandbags in front of the pub
found on youtube:
At Creg Ny Baa, Isle of Man TT Road Races (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vfpFqZAfBA8#)
2010 crash TT (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9EJRqKyuhzE#ws)   :headbang:
Man has scenis roads as well, and trusting your driver is crucial

(http://i113.photobucket.com/albums/n206/Dutchy_748/640df072.jpg)


All good things come to an end and on a Guzzi they always will....
turned out later that the ignition key assembly has rotted/coroded  :pottytrain5:
But then again, there is always Guinness...  :headbang:

(http://i113.photobucket.com/albums/n206/Dutchy_748/6c9a4ced.jpg)




Title: Re: Motorcycle Racing Venues
Post by: Dutchy on May 23, 2011, 12:26:38 PM
Been to Daytona Bike Week for the day...........  but that is another set of pictures  :laughing7:



Title: Re: Motorcycle Racing Venues
Post by: fknflyn@73 on May 23, 2011, 03:42:07 PM
Sweet, Dutchy !   Tx a bunch for the images in whatever form !  That's some priceless stuff you got there !....

 :icon_thumright:  :icon_thumright:  :icon_thumright:


Title: Re: Motorcycle Racing Venues
Post by: NOMOKRASH (aka CTD aka Charlie) on May 23, 2011, 05:37:03 PM
Dutchy you should meet us in Monterey for the MotoGP races this year.


Title: Re: Motorcycle Racing Venues
Post by: tbzep on May 02, 2012, 07:13:34 PM
Late getting in on the poll, but only one word is needed:  Corkscrew!  

IOM should be a national monument to Joey Dunlop, not a race "track".   :icon_salut:


Title: Re: Motorcycle Racing Venues
Post by: Dutchy on May 03, 2012, 01:56:55 AM
Daytona....  cannae post pictures of the tattood breasts here......  but I think these are ok for generla consumption....



(http://i113.photobucket.com/albums/n206/Dutchy_748/IM000044.jpg)



(http://i113.photobucket.com/albums/n206/Dutchy_748/IM000043.jpg)




(http://i113.photobucket.com/albums/n206/Dutchy_748/IM000045.jpg)



(http://i113.photobucket.com/albums/n206/Dutchy_748/IM000046.jpg)



(http://i113.photobucket.com/albums/n206/Dutchy_748/IM000047.jpg)



I'll be in NC in a few weeks, that will be my fun moeny spend for the year (and next yers.....)  


Title: Re: Motorcycle Racing Venues
Post by: Dutchy on May 03, 2012, 02:02:09 AM
Heres is Assen









I can think of a better place to warm your hands...............







(http://i113.photobucket.com/albums/n206/Dutchy_748/Assen12/a0253aed.jpg)



 :headbang: :headbang: :headbang:


Title: Re: Motorcycle Racing Venues
Post by: NOMOKRASH (aka CTD aka Charlie) on May 03, 2012, 12:26:24 PM
IOMTT is definitely on my list.  Assen would be awesome to see too.


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